`Well then, let me know this from you, Sir,' said Dalbhya. `Know it,' replied Silaka Salavatya. `What is the origin of that world (heaven)?' `This world,' he replied. `And what is the origin of this world?' He replied: `Let no man carry the Saman beyond this world as its rest. We place the Saman in this world as its rest, for the Saman is extolled as rest.'